He knows exactly what he's doing, even when he seems laid-back. He's a fun, relaxed guy who likes to joke around. But when he needs to take charge and get fired up, he can.

I talked to a of people and they said your freshman year is a building year.

It was pretty intense. But we've got a good one in Ben. We have to help him out. That's our job.

You can make fun of everything.

It's more fun in the locker room after you win. It's more fun when you go out on a Saturday night after you win. It's a better week of practice after you win. I hate losing. Winning feels so much better.

We put the fun in dysfunctional, don't we?