He just kind of tried it out and found out he was pretty good at it. Right off the bat, he won the Dallas Golden Gloves.

We're playing pretty good right now and we've built some momentum.

Right now we've pretty much finished our part, ... They are cut loose and on their own.

It is a good program. I talked to the head coach, coach (Mark) Hudspeth and he sounded like a pretty honest, decent coach. We went up there and we liked the school. It seemed like a pretty good place.

When you come right down to it, I guess I really am pretty bland.

Toby had been taking tae kwon do lessons from Kevin Nelson in Sioux City. He eventually earned his black belt, which led to his being recruited for a job in Dallas.