He just didn't have Division I stuff. He was 6-to-7 miles down from where he is now.

When I started, there were just a few miles of trail; now we have over 60 and are always planning on adding more.

When it's those division games, that's when it gets ramped up for me.

We were backpacking in the backcountry. We covered several hundred miles. Did a lot of off-trail stuff and some mountaineering. Music sounds different when you're high up in the mountains. You can really hear the music clearly.

You can't make that stuff up. It just happened.

There was no reason to be down there unless you?re fiddling with the fuse.