He had a great tournament. A lot of these kids have been wrestling since they were little guys, so for Shaun it was about the learning curve. He's always had the physical ability and the quickness but, against kids like this, that's not always enough.

As you get older, your wrestling style matures, and his is starting to mature. He's starting to really refine his stuff and that's nice to see.

Rod's had a tremendous year. He's been first in three tournaments and second in two. But he was not a big 215-pounder and he's better suited at 189.

Rod was just put in positions he wasn't used to against (Washington).

That's probably the biggest growth in him during the year.

The gesture was there, but it's like wrestling, ... They do all kinds of stuff and there's kids in the stands. It's entertainment. Even one game (suspension), I thought, would have been too much. But I guess they're trying to give a good image. I can't do anything about it. I have to be more careful next time, I guess.