Gates has kept Apple alive to get the Justice Department off his back. All he has to do is stop making Office for the Mac and that is the end of Apple. He keeps Apple alive, but very weak.

The G4 is about the nicest industrial design that I have seen anywhere,

Steve Jobs has done a good job of selling, and the Apple interface is still superior, but he doesn't have critical mass.

It's very difficult when you have as low a market share as they do to get dealers interested. A dealer has to sell a Mac, whereas he doesn't have to sell a Windows machine, since the Windows machine is a known quantity.

The G4 is about the nicest industrial design that I have seen anywhere.

This win shows progress. We don't want to get ahead of ourselves, though. A lot of people picked us to finish last in the conference, so it would be nice to prove them wrong.