For us, this is about how many people we send to an incident. It's about keeping both the firefighters and the public safe.

The award is somewhat problematic for us because we are not greedy for money. For us, this has been a matter of following the contract.

We don't want to bring the city to its knees financially. We want to do our jobs safely.

Our discussions are more meaningful than they have been in a long time and we hope to iron all this out in the next few weeks.

It occurred to us as operations were winding down in that fire that it was the second time. We looked at each other and it sunk in ? wow!

People are hoping it's only going to be as bad as they said it would be.