For us, they are all teaching games. We went into this game trying to win it. They have a great football team with a lot of speed and size.

I think the kids get pumped up to play against other competition.

We wanted to take advantage of our mismatches. We felt Darnell had not been getting the ball enough lately.

I guess I got that one off my back.

I think you have to give all the credit to Lower. He (Holden) is a fantastic coach. His team came ready to play.

Ronnie gave us the spark we needed. I think he's starting to understand what we're telling him. Hopefully, this was a glimpse of the future.