Everybody was really into it and moving. It was not just sitting there in chairs, playing the songs. It was trying to get as much energy out of it as possible.

We'd run up to people at Warped Tour and throw headphones on people and say, 'Hey, do you like our CD? Will you buy it?' We did that pretty much every day on Warped Tour.

Most things that people give us we're never really happy with, so most of the time we do everything ourselves anyway. We just kind of skip the middleman and do it ourselves.

Our earlier stuff was a lot of short songs that were super complicated. Nothing ever repeated. It was one roller coaster after another. We felt like we kind of did that enough ... we wanted to focus on repetition and the things that we chose to repeat.

We'd be singing crazy stuff — making up songs while we shot hoops just to goof around. What began as a hobby eventually became a newfound calling for the three of us.

We've written some songs that could be played on country stations, even though we don't consider them country songs.