Especially with the predators, one of the things that gets these programs going on a local level is for our land management agencies to build partnerships with surrounding communities and landowners.

Predators make it much more difficult to find consensus. It's a lot easier to agree about birds and plants than about animals that endanger people and livestock.

The franchisees are uniquely in touch at the local level. They see what's going on in their communities in a way we couldn't ever imagine.

Human beings are going to be relying on natural resources for a long time.

I think that our cooperative conservation approaches get people to sit down and grapple with problem solving.

The developers, if they decide to move a tortoise, have to pay the long-term costs for enhancing the areas that take care of the tortoise, and it gives us the opportunity to manage an area that is going to be protected.