Donovan McNabb is kind of the symbol for guys who play with pain, but it's hard to distinguish where the line is,

He's in a lot of pain. He said he's feeling kind of nauseous. He's going to go out there and give you what he's got, hurt or not hurt. He's going to play with pain and that's just a testament to what kind of guy he is.

I'm not a sex symbol. How could I be with these skinny bowlegs?

He's a symbol of come out and play hard every night, just because anything can happen. And he's just a good person.

They are wonderful craftsmen who play with a great sense of humor and scale. They easily take a symbol of war and turn it into something domestic.

If he was out there hugging kids and feeling people's pain, he'd become a huge and important symbol,