Athletically, Manual is big, they're deep and they're fast. They have the whole package. We just went through three in a row that nobody wants to go through.

Manual had us out of sorts early on. I don't want to take anything away from Manual, but you can't give them cheap ones like we did. We gave up three big scores that you are not going to get back in a big game.

They're coming at producers' income at three different ways. None of these alone is good news; and the package together is really going to be a problem. At first blush, it will set off some alarm bells.

They have a strong front court, but they also have fast guards who can shoot the three and penetrate down the lane.

We watched them play the first game and they're real big and real fast. This will be a big test, for sure.

Labor will be able to support much of the Government's package and will approach the debate about all of the changes in a constructive manner.