(At that time) none of the city committees had women in them and no women were on the city council.

There were hardly any women who were college graduates then.

(At the time) it was managed by eight different agencies and no one was protecting it. If that study hadn't been done the city might not have had the creek preserved.

I still see some of the girls from time to time. My wife is one of the women that was there. She touched a lot of people's lives.

Now the women use their hands and pull it out that way.

We've done some darn important things over 40 years.