As much as you recruit players, you have to recruit programs, ... You know what you're going to get. You know how the coach runs their system and the practices. You know how disciplined the players will be.

When I talk to kids about this place, I spend all my time talking about what a great place this is, not all that other stuff, ... There are enough positive things to talk about with this program and this community.

Yeah, I have a cell phone that works, ... I just don't have a lot of my numbers.

Your cell phone is an absolute necessity, so you kind of feel naked without it,

Yeah, it's all about positioning, ... You have to make yourself seen.

We're not going to sign a post guy just because he's a post guy, ... Too many times, guys get caught up in, 'I have to have this.' You have to recruit players.