A lot of times we don't even know the caves are there, and we find out caves are on BLM land by the spelunking groups.

Can you believe I have a favorite cave?

Medicine men live in caves.

They make it so it's been building up to this huge thing, but it's actually really easy. It's not stressful at all.

We have to trust the courts to work it out in a fair and equitable way.

What I like about this team is that they never give up. We are not big at the net and we need another hitter to step up, but if we stay tough and remain focused, then we'll be competitive.