A bond's easy to get if you're rich and have a lot of money; if not, it's impossible to get. And I don't think you can buy such a bond.

I'm not even a CAFO but probably would be under this ordinance.

It's terrible. It's going to affect a lot of people.

When figures start flowing up to $200 billion, I have concerns, ... $1 billion is a lot of money.

We have all the hallmarks here of a rush to spend money. We have got to be careful that this does not become a feeding frenzy. ... This is our grandchildren's money.

This may seem like little. But add it all up and it saves the contractor a lot of money, allowing him to undercut others.